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conjunctive use is one of our prime uses is a way we're meeting it, soy have to believe on the membrane which is what you represent in de sal that technology is moving so quick in respect to smart and a insuranced membranes that we're not asking the question that we're asking now with respect to membrane. >> one final piece you talked about the cost of water and that's one element to be considered but not the sole element in incremental water supply element. it goes back to the no silver bullet approach where there's not one single strategy that will work but a come polation of all the tools to help us be flexible and responsive to this changing environment. >> well on that note our time is up and please join me in thanking this excellent panel. and thank s to all of you. >> can can is a research meterologist at the scrips institute of oceanographer at,uc san diego and researcher at is tusds and serve at the climate research division director. his work is understanding climate variability and changes particularly as they apply to the pacific ocean and north america. his specific work co
conjunctive use is one of our prime uses is a way we're meeting it, soy have to believe on the membrane which is what you represent in de sal that technology is moving so quick in respect to smart and a insuranced membranes that we're not asking the question that we're asking now with respect to membrane. >> one final piece you talked about the cost of water and that's one element to be considered but not the sole element in incremental water supply element. it goes back to the no silver...
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your not listening to what the models are telling us. they are telling us there still is the range of natural variability in precipitation eventhough temperature is changing remarkably. evidently that did not get through. but that's what happens. the characterization of precipitation is not unlike today. not rain verses snow, but the total water volume is still looking a lot like the modern climate. >> let me take a crack at this. it's a great question. its the barrier that a lot of water managers face. on the,pa leo climate, side the the past will help me deal with floods and droughts properly deal with them. if we had a better since of this from tree rings in the 1920s we would probably make different assumptions on the colorado rivers. maybe we would not but it was information we did not have about climate that would have changed potentially a decision that water manager's and politicians had. going into the few uh-uhture, manager's and planners have a lot of tools for dealing with these kinds of variabilities that we have to face. pa
your not listening to what the models are telling us. they are telling us there still is the range of natural variability in precipitation eventhough temperature is changing remarkably. evidently that did not get through. but that's what happens. the characterization of precipitation is not unlike today. not rain verses snow, but the total water volume is still looking a lot like the modern climate. >> let me take a crack at this. it's a great question. its the barrier that a lot of water...
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we want to know what they're asking us to do if the permit is revoked. we wish to be able to retain the natural light that we do had rainy season is around the corner. we do not feel animosity towards our neighbors, and whatever decision is reached tonight will not affect us wanting to have a relationship with them. >> can you upon what you mean -- can you define what you mean obscure? >> you can't see. >> they wouldn't be able to see anything? >> of the previous ones were clear -- >> were you working with the contractor or doing it by yourself? >> i had hired help. >> did you have a licensed contractor? >> no. >> i was going asked about the obscure glaze. >> we don't know existed 110 years ago, but we think they had been there for a long time. >> they were would, not vinyl? >> we have other when does in the building that are -- >> mr. cornfield? >> i am with the department -- people are just trying to simply maintain the building that they no longer can enjoy the benefits that were allowed when the buildings were built. we do allow people to maintain wh
we want to know what they're asking us to do if the permit is revoked. we wish to be able to retain the natural light that we do had rainy season is around the corner. we do not feel animosity towards our neighbors, and whatever decision is reached tonight will not affect us wanting to have a relationship with them. >> can you upon what you mean -- can you define what you mean obscure? >> you can't see. >> they wouldn't be able to see anything? >> of the previous ones...
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so we've used some gis projections and we have had to use a two meter sea level rise because of the base maps we used, but you see a lot of that area would be inundated. even if it's only half as much, there's still a lot of expensive puc infrastructure that's going to be under water. under the heading of sharing the pain, i want to point out that bcdc's objectives will also be hard hit by sea level rise. over the past 40 years, we have required a lot of public access along the shore line of the bay, about a hundred miles of it. and a lot more access has been provided in public parks and through the bay trail. much of this could well be lost. now, after all this talk of doom and gloom, i have to put a caveat in here. bay waters won't rise slowly like -- and evenly like water filling a bathtub. the tide comes in, the tide goes out. so what we're talking about are trends in mean sea level. i prefer to use the term climate change to global warming when we're talking about this phenomenon we're dealing with because overall while the earth's atmosphere will be getting warmer, some places will
so we've used some gis projections and we have had to use a two meter sea level rise because of the base maps we used, but you see a lot of that area would be inundated. even if it's only half as much, there's still a lot of expensive puc infrastructure that's going to be under water. under the heading of sharing the pain, i want to point out that bcdc's objectives will also be hard hit by sea level rise. over the past 40 years, we have required a lot of public access along the shore line of...
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i use the phone. but the best thing to do is to be able to go into a restaurant, to go into the kitchen, to find the person cooking the food, and say, "hey, what can i get you? what are you looking for?" >> i would just be doing seed production if it weren't for jim driving in here and refusing to drive away and saying, "no, i really want this stuff. no, ycu don't understand, i really do want to buy this stuff." and "i really want this, and i really want it now, and i really want some, and i want samples," and you know, so forth and so on despite my best efforts to get rid of him. >> as chef michael tuohy starts preparing meals with the greens, he admits his job would be so much more difficult if it were not for produce experts like jim mills. >> jim fills a need here that nobody else does, and that is he--his company and him,
i use the phone. but the best thing to do is to be able to go into a restaurant, to go into the kitchen, to find the person cooking the food, and say, "hey, what can i get you? what are you looking for?" >> i would just be doing seed production if it weren't for jim driving in here and refusing to drive away and saying, "no, i really want this stuff. no, ycu don't understand, i really do want to buy this stuff." and "i really want this, and i really want it now,...
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can you tell us what that means? >> sure. green points are points that you get for including prescriptive majors under the system, and for project to be recognized as green, it needs to meet at least a minimum standard, 50. , including a few prerequisites. energy requirements at least 15% better. so when the current standards past fort points, that is a measure that you need to include the checklist for drawings and also choose a few measures from the checklist that to be very easy to find. there is some recognition of benefits of development in terms of transit and other benefits. 25 points, and there is not a verification mechanism, because it is below the standard. it is a primary funding source. but they are likely to be a nonprofit consensus-based organization, helping with maintenance of standards overtime. >> so we have two standards. one is the lead standards promulgated by the building council, and the others paraded standards -- other is rated standards. the greens' standard started to focus initially, with leaves f
can you tell us what that means? >> sure. green points are points that you get for including prescriptive majors under the system, and for project to be recognized as green, it needs to meet at least a minimum standard, 50. , including a few prerequisites. energy requirements at least 15% better. so when the current standards past fort points, that is a measure that you need to include the checklist for drawings and also choose a few measures from the checklist that to be very easy to...
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times and teaching for a couple of universities on very short notice but nothing having to do with us. without any basic knowledge, do become a rubber stamp for the departments to come before you such as planning and building. you don't have the basic knowledge to challenge them and as a matter of temperament, most of you don't have any indication that they will challenge anything from them anyway. >> is there any other public comment? >> thank you. i am an architect here in the city. on the case that is no longer before you. it has come to my attention that some of the information that was provided in the plan that was given to the department of building inspection is either false or misleading. if one compares the permit history of a building shows as constructed with a permit, that is what is in fact existing. if i have added a backroom to my house without a permit and that it plans that this is existing, the use of the word existing is not correct. how this happened, i am not entirely certain because i was not part of a process that produced those plans. i know that a licensed pro
times and teaching for a couple of universities on very short notice but nothing having to do with us. without any basic knowledge, do become a rubber stamp for the departments to come before you such as planning and building. you don't have the basic knowledge to challenge them and as a matter of temperament, most of you don't have any indication that they will challenge anything from them anyway. >> is there any other public comment? >> thank you. i am an architect here in the...
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is it collapse prevention or immediate occupancy or immediate use. often i have found that the marginal cost difference is quite low to go to that next level. maybe a little more when you go up to the -- when you want to keep using immediate occupancy. but people need to understand that and make a conscious decision. do not leave the decisions to the engineer. these are not engineering decisions. they're your personal decisions as an owner. >> since i was the owner i made the decision to go up. >> very informed owner. we will walk up to the rialto building on the corner up here. keep walking. (♪ music playing ) >> we are here just a little further down mission street past annie alley toward new montgomery. it was badly damaged. this was also burned? >> it also experienced fire damage. >> and dynamite damage? >> we will talk about the dynamite damage. people don't understand how much dynamiting they actually did. >> let's start with this brick building we are in front of. this is a building built after the 1906 earthquake and it was seismically retr
is it collapse prevention or immediate occupancy or immediate use. often i have found that the marginal cost difference is quite low to go to that next level. maybe a little more when you go up to the -- when you want to keep using immediate occupancy. but people need to understand that and make a conscious decision. do not leave the decisions to the engineer. these are not engineering decisions. they're your personal decisions as an owner. >> since i was the owner i made the decision to...
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they mocked us a bit. i even was a little concerned about the composting requirement at first, but now i'm doing it. other folks are doing it, and it is really exciting to achieve these extraordinary goals. green collar jobs. the new economy. this is our future. this is real. it is happening now, and it could be happening everywhere else, not just in the great city and county of san francisco. >> welcome to culture wire. did you know the city of san francisco has an art collection consisting of 3500 objects? the collection ranges from painting and public buildings to murals, and from bronze busts in city halls, to cite specific structures. at this time, many of the large works are in desperate need of repair, and a long-term innovative solution is needed to make sure these public treasures will be cared for. >> the story of the arts commission program begins with ruth fromstein. 2010 marks her 50th year as an art dealer. at the helm of the county, she had represented some of the most notable of bay area ar
they mocked us a bit. i even was a little concerned about the composting requirement at first, but now i'm doing it. other folks are doing it, and it is really exciting to achieve these extraordinary goals. green collar jobs. the new economy. this is our future. this is real. it is happening now, and it could be happening everywhere else, not just in the great city and county of san francisco. >> welcome to culture wire. did you know the city of san francisco has an art collection...
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so for a brief moment, let us pause to recognize the accomplishments of many, but let us be ever mindful of our ultimate goal in the service of even more. thanks. with that, i want to turn the program back over to the caltrans spokesman. [applause] >> ok, i would like to thank our speakers today for their great comments in acknowledging this moment in history and all the work that has been done by the bay bridge team and basically conclude the ceremony portion of what we are going to be doing today. for those of you in the media that are going to be taking the boat trip, i need to talk with you for a few minutes, so give us basically invented to excuse everybody. those of you in the media, please stay right here. i'm going to go over the next steps we have to do to go out on the water to see this thing very closely. also, thank you to the warriors for showing up today, and taking this icon literally on to their uniforms. thanks, everybody. one minute, media. >> good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. it is my pleasure to be here with our regional fta administrator and our c
so for a brief moment, let us pause to recognize the accomplishments of many, but let us be ever mindful of our ultimate goal in the service of even more. thanks. with that, i want to turn the program back over to the caltrans spokesman. [applause] >> ok, i would like to thank our speakers today for their great comments in acknowledging this moment in history and all the work that has been done by the bay bridge team and basically conclude the ceremony portion of what we are going to be...
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it effects all of us. no data means no good research fundamentally. so i encourage you not to lose site of some of these bigger issues. >> very good. >> on that issue, we're right in the process of adding 17 rain gauges, 17 instant rain gauges. i looked at how much it is to install it and it's relative to a five million dollar a year budget is nothing. you ought to go back and look at what data you wish you had and start putting that in place for whoever will follow you. we have an opportunity to make a small investment to stay with that that allow for better decisions in the future. snow funding, their so under funding we're looking to putting our own snow tell sites in, as you look to the future it might not be climate and regional but micro climate and my guess is lots of people are doing the same thing. but it's not that difficult of a step to do it. just sitting down and making those decisions may give you information on making better decisions for your customers. >> does that make it difficult for regions to exchange information. could you make
it effects all of us. no data means no good research fundamentally. so i encourage you not to lose site of some of these bigger issues. >> very good. >> on that issue, we're right in the process of adding 17 rain gauges, 17 instant rain gauges. i looked at how much it is to install it and it's relative to a five million dollar a year budget is nothing. you ought to go back and look at what data you wish you had and start putting that in place for whoever will follow you. we have an...
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it's not natural for us in the, uk. we have spent a lot of time building trust between the agencies and companies but when we achieved that it's been enormously helpful and it's achieved the feedback back into the legislation process because when you get a collective bodies working together, it's very easy to influence the legislation process. >> chuck, i'm going back to running the office and be a regulator and tell you what i hated. what i hated is when people came in and said they didn't like the rules and they wanted a performance based standard and they would say, we know what we want to do and we're green and trust us. if someone comes in and says we don't like the prescriptive standards and we run models and can invest better to have a better return for theen environment i found the regulator pretty open to look at those. i think as we look at regulatory engagement i think what we need to do with regulators is bring to them solutions. i spend more on training in my staff in a month than most spend on regulators i
it's not natural for us in the, uk. we have spent a lot of time building trust between the agencies and companies but when we achieved that it's been enormously helpful and it's achieved the feedback back into the legislation process because when you get a collective bodies working together, it's very easy to influence the legislation process. >> chuck, i'm going back to running the office and be a regulator and tell you what i hated. what i hated is when people came in and said they...
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how do i use it. then they will start to learn how to do email or how to go back to chinese newspaper to read all the chinese newspaper. >> a lot of the barrier still is around lack of k
how do i use it. then they will start to learn how to do email or how to go back to chinese newspaper to read all the chinese newspaper. >> a lot of the barrier still is around lack of k
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you can use it in your own home. there are these platform lifts that go up the stairs, they are incline platform lifts, and under some circumstances those are acceptable to use. >> i would say the chair lift in and of itself will never work for commercial enterprise. if i was to use it, where would i put my chair? do i haul it along behind me up the steps? . >> you just can't get out of your chair without help, that wouldn't do. >> for home application they are great, but for commercial it just wouldn't work. >> here we have somebody's front door. it requires that you push down this little button as you grab and pull the thing. it's a little difficult. it's an old knob. it's got some historic value to it. i think reasonable readily achievable barrier removal might say that you adjust the mechanism so that you don't have to actually push the button down to make it work, possibly. here is a really wonderful see's candy accessible entrance. everything is right. the door has nice hardware, easy to open, it's got everythi
you can use it in your own home. there are these platform lifts that go up the stairs, they are incline platform lifts, and under some circumstances those are acceptable to use. >> i would say the chair lift in and of itself will never work for commercial enterprise. if i was to use it, where would i put my chair? do i haul it along behind me up the steps? . >> you just can't get out of your chair without help, that wouldn't do. >> for home application they are great, but for...
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that's what we used in this california assessment. for the scenarios they were all down scaled to twelve kilometers covering california and nevada. it's not totally adequate and i'm not saying this is a solved problem. the premium grape growers want to know what's going on in napa, valley but for a lot of water related problems i think we're okay. [inaudible] >> what's the long-term climate - >> hopefully, we get on to that green emissions trajectory which would have co2 levels leveling off and declining. there's a lot of inertia in the system. we all have cars and you can't change power plants overnight and et cetera, et cetera. but in fact the earth response to climate is not going to make too much difference until about the middle part of the century between all those scenarios. through 2050 a climate model is sort of a climate model no whatter what you do with it. in fact if you stop all , co2 emissions today. fossil fuel is the reason it's increasing because fossil means it's stored in the ground and now we're putting it in the a
that's what we used in this california assessment. for the scenarios they were all down scaled to twelve kilometers covering california and nevada. it's not totally adequate and i'm not saying this is a solved problem. the premium grape growers want to know what's going on in napa, valley but for a lot of water related problems i think we're okay. [inaudible] >> what's the long-term climate - >> hopefully, we get on to that green emissions trajectory which would have co2 levels...
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we used to do this probably twice a year in the past. because of constraints we are doing table top discussions and drills. we hope to do more large scale community drills. before a close i want to share a couple of other things we are working on for the future. worn is having to do with trying to security and purchase food and water suppliers for the community. a majority of san francisco population and the china town community few would have enough food and water to last 3 days. for many of the sro residents one issue is even if they could where would they store the food and water in the cramped places. we will have food bars or energy bars to be located throughout the china town area for those in need. also one. other things is to work with the city and local businesses. we saw in 89 when folks accesses restaurants, markets, stores to access food supplies they were denied. we are trying to set up a system working with the local businesses to empower them to distribute their foods with the promised they will be reimbursed by the city f
we used to do this probably twice a year in the past. because of constraints we are doing table top discussions and drills. we hope to do more large scale community drills. before a close i want to share a couple of other things we are working on for the future. worn is having to do with trying to security and purchase food and water suppliers for the community. a majority of san francisco population and the china town community few would have enough food and water to last 3 days. for many of...
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it can be used in cooking. it can be used in pastries. it works with savory foods. it works very well with cheese. >> he says california's unusual weather this year, a late spring and above-average temperatures, has not affected the quality of california figs. in fact, he's got a bumper crop this year. although we think of a fig as being a fruit, scientists say figs are, in actual fact, an inverted flower. and the seeds inside--well, that's the real fruit. well, fruit or flower, one thing's for certain, figs are growing in popularity because they are so delicious and nutritious. back at the fig festival, marie simmons was signing autographs on her ndw fig cookbook. the california fig advisory board says fresh fig consumption has increased by about 60% as a new generation discovers that each fruit is a bundle of goodness. >> they also are very high in b vitamins, and, of course, they have potassium, which most fruit does. but they're--of all fruits, they're right up there at the top with nutritional value. >> the chefs who were serving fig bread pudding were raving o
it can be used in cooking. it can be used in pastries. it works with savory foods. it works very well with cheese. >> he says california's unusual weather this year, a late spring and above-average temperatures, has not affected the quality of california figs. in fact, he's got a bumper crop this year. although we think of a fig as being a fruit, scientists say figs are, in actual fact, an inverted flower. and the seeds inside--well, that's the real fruit. well, fruit or flower, one...
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they mocked us a bit. i even was a little concerned about the composting requirement at first, but now i'm doing it. other folks are doing it, and it is really exciting to achieve these extraordinary goals. green collar jobs. the new economy. this is our future. this is real. it is happening now, and it could be happening everywhere else, not just in the great city and county of san francisco. >> i think it ae's public and private property. i'm against graffiti. >> who can get it out the most who can be noticed the most. >> i i've seen seniors doing graffiti. >> the city is art, other people who have their names tag -- >> [inaudible] our unit there are 2 sections we are doing one is abating and others are notice of violation to private property. all the utility boxes in public right-of-way we abate. >> we abate calls that come within 48 hours. >> we are a small group in g f graffiti. we don't have enough help. >> i have a group in town down and china town and the north tunnel. [inaudible] the graffiti we a
they mocked us a bit. i even was a little concerned about the composting requirement at first, but now i'm doing it. other folks are doing it, and it is really exciting to achieve these extraordinary goals. green collar jobs. the new economy. this is our future. this is real. it is happening now, and it could be happening everywhere else, not just in the great city and county of san francisco. >> i think it ae's public and private property. i'm against graffiti. >> who can get it...
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your house will use a lot less. how much less depends on your usage. >> what is the impact of tilt versus flat and are those things that i need to think about before investing in solar panels? >> absolutely. you're tilting them up to harvest more sun and have them perpendicular to the sun. as utility them up, you can't have them close together anymore. as you can see my hands are shading each other here. you have to start separating them so they don't wind up casting shadows on each other. if you're able to get less panels in a given area. >> i would love to take a look at one of these solar panels if you have something that we can look at. are they heavy? what's the deal with this? >> you're 150, 100 something pound person walking on your roof. >> 150? >> i'm 150 pounds. >> carl! >> most modern houses are designed to take the weight of a solar panel instaglation. >> i don't have to worry about panels falling in on me? >> hopefully not. >> hopefully not. >> if you have a good contractor, they'll do their due diligen
your house will use a lot less. how much less depends on your usage. >> what is the impact of tilt versus flat and are those things that i need to think about before investing in solar panels? >> absolutely. you're tilting them up to harvest more sun and have them perpendicular to the sun. as utility them up, you can't have them close together anymore. as you can see my hands are shading each other here. you have to start separating them so they don't wind up casting shadows on each...
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the only of us who can get it are people with health insurance. anyone will tell you on the street we need residential drug treatment. take some of these dam presence, take down the gun towers, turned into a residential drug treatment centers -- some of these damned prisons. >> what are your suggestions as to the reform? one area we have not really talked about much is the impact of technology. where is that going now, and how do we need to expend that? how do we deal with the information that is being disseminated, how do we slow that down? are there other areas that also are bleeding into employment and housing, and what is the solution, is my question? he>> there has been a real leadership on the country to come up with smarter ideas, and we have had a lot of good examples and policies, state and federal for the past 10 years or so, so the reform agenda is not that big a secret. they have been a lot of reports that put it together in one place. i think the real challenge that has been touched on is really leadership, and a lot of it has to do w
the only of us who can get it are people with health insurance. anyone will tell you on the street we need residential drug treatment. take some of these dam presence, take down the gun towers, turned into a residential drug treatment centers -- some of these damned prisons. >> what are your suggestions as to the reform? one area we have not really talked about much is the impact of technology. where is that going now, and how do we need to expend that? how do we deal with the information...
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we use a modern machinery. we haven't changed a thing. it's just how we get there. >> it's a time consuming job. we go for the quality rather than the production. we take pride in our work and it shows in the end product. >> the california line is mostly locals. the commuters in the morning, i see a lot of the same people. we don't have as tourists. we are coming up to street to chinatown. since 1957, we are the only city in the world that runs cable cars. these cars right here are part of national parks
we use a modern machinery. we haven't changed a thing. it's just how we get there. >> it's a time consuming job. we go for the quality rather than the production. we take pride in our work and it shows in the end product. >> the california line is mostly locals. the commuters in the morning, i see a lot of the same people. we don't have as tourists. we are coming up to street to chinatown. since 1957, we are the only city in the world that runs cable cars. these cars right here are...
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i would ask you to share your experiences with us and tell us about the barriers that exist for people who have a criminal record. >> i'm a convicted felon. i'm an ex-con. and i'm a professor. i'm the leader of the convert criminology group. if you just go to google and google
i would ask you to share your experiences with us and tell us about the barriers that exist for people who have a criminal record. >> i'm a convicted felon. i'm an ex-con. and i'm a professor. i'm the leader of the convert criminology group. if you just go to google and google
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i would ask you to share your experiences with us and tell us about the barriers that exist for people who have a criminal record. >> i'm a convicted felon. i'm an ex-con. and i'm a professor. i'm the leader of the convert criminology group. if you just go to google and google convict criminology, you will find our website. our group was actually started many years ago by professor john irwin, who was at a san francisco state university for 30 years. john recently passed away. john, even after he retired in 1995, for nearly 15 years helps me to organize the convicts criminology group. there is
i would ask you to share your experiences with us and tell us about the barriers that exist for people who have a criminal record. >> i'm a convicted felon. i'm an ex-con. and i'm a professor. i'm the leader of the convert criminology group. if you just go to google and google convict criminology, you will find our website. our group was actually started many years ago by professor john irwin, who was at a san francisco state university for 30 years. john recently passed away. john, even...
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there's no one here from land use jurisdiction, the people who make these decisions. we will engineer our way out as best we can and how do we deal with that issue and break through to those decision makers when they are focused on economic development rather than how do you stop causing a problem that we are all going to have to fix? will's comments about river flows, we have it in south bay, how are we going to deal with the fact that sea level rise is going to create katrinas all over the country and that's in terms of rivers not having anywhere to go. >> thanks. will, you want to start with that? . >> thanks, greg. as greg knows, we have been working very hard to bring the water agencies, the land use planning agencies and the environmental community, the business community together. our problem is that we have 24 hour days when we need about 106 hour days to do all that. but i think you are absolutely right and mary's point about the political difficulty of making some of these decisions, and we're seeing this in new orleans, the first reaction is put it all back
there's no one here from land use jurisdiction, the people who make these decisions. we will engineer our way out as best we can and how do we deal with that issue and break through to those decision makers when they are focused on economic development rather than how do you stop causing a problem that we are all going to have to fix? will's comments about river flows, we have it in south bay, how are we going to deal with the fact that sea level rise is going to create katrinas all over the...
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that's certainly something we've used in the, uk. i know it's been used here is a well. this is taking an incremental approach. not starting with the solution today to address all the problems but what can we do now to take it in the right direction in the next 20 years so we won't have to stand up in 20 years and say we should not have done that or even worse, i wish we'd done something 20 years back. i believe peter said, maybe some of us think if we acted in 1997 some of the problems might not be so challenging in 07'. an incremental no regrets approach might be something to think about as a strategy for going forward. we talked about from the third perspective, stake holder perspective and it takes time to bring them to the table. it's different techniques that it takes to reconcile differences and manager conflict and move forward. we do have to find the time in the planning process to bring those different agencies closer and that needs to be structured in our processes. we need that time and investment needed to do that - needs to be in place and i was delighted t
that's certainly something we've used in the, uk. i know it's been used here is a well. this is taking an incremental approach. not starting with the solution today to address all the problems but what can we do now to take it in the right direction in the next 20 years so we won't have to stand up in 20 years and say we should not have done that or even worse, i wish we'd done something 20 years back. i believe peter said, maybe some of us think if we acted in 1997 some of the problems might...